Last night I read a post on Tnooz about the lack of consumer information on airline extra fees online. I have written about this before, and that I feel comparison sites should truly compare flights, like-for-like, but many compare the flat-base flight price, not including taxes and extras.

Sites must be consumer friendly
I read about Hipmunk (a stupid name!) and I class myself as internet savvy, yet, I found it initially confusing and I wonder if less savvy consumers will be able to use it. I asked them that question on Twitter, but no one has responded yet.
Too many flight comparison sites
This brings me on to my actual rant. Does anyone else think that there are too many flight comparison sites? I have always used Kayak, and will continue to do so, because I cannot see anything that is going to make my life easier when searching for flights.
It seems that the current travel trend is to think of a stupid name, and create a flight comparison site. What is worse is that Google has entered this market, so will we see even more startups appearing in the hope of a buy-out by the giants in search? I seriously hope not.
Anyway, what do think, are there too many flight comparison sites.
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James | 25 August, 2010 at 7:22 am
I would have thought that with Google entering the market, that would be enough to put anyone off starting “yet another” flight comparison site ?!
Darren Cronian | 25 August, 2010 at 7:27 am
@ James
Thanks for the comment. Actually, I was going to add in the post that Google acquiring
Sam Daams | 25 August, 2010 at 8:45 am
There have been too many flight comparisons for the past two years already… I can’t really understand why anyone would want to start one after say 01/01/2009… but hey, the lure of doing what everyone else is doing has always been appealing to many an executive with a lack of creativity and shareholders pushing them to come up with something ‘new’.
Darren Cronian | 25 August, 2010 at 11:26 am
@ Sam
I’m glad we agree. I suppose if people see something that is “successful” then they will copy it, but it doesn’t mean that they are going to be successful. I would like to see more innovation and some unique, useful travel sites appearing online.
jude | 25 August, 2010 at 11:49 am
i’d like to see a flight comparison site that really works – i’ve actually always done better than the comparison sites – although i do use them for the initial query – to find out who’s now doing offers on a particular route.
what really gets me is often when you click on a fare – it often magically disappears or is available for different dates even though you put the date in before searching.
fare rules are also not often as clear as they might be when you use comparison sites – they give you letters and then you’re not really sure if its a fair you can amend for a fee if you need to.
when i can’t get the best fare direct from an airline or the route is tight on space or deals i’ve found my best deals have come from the old fashioned ‘dial-up’ a travel agent.
so i’m still waiting for the definitive comparison site.
Nick | 25 August, 2010 at 11:50 am
The worse thing about these comparison sites is the mistakes or routings they give. I seen connection times of 20 minutes between 2 airports in the same city (not possible) and Murray quoted one on twitter today of Dublin to Brussels taking 18 hours to save a few quid.. Instead of 1 hour 5 minutes. Thing is once booked if it goes wrong your on your own.
The market is crowded and needs better systems if it possible. Like for like would be good instead of telling me Ryanair is £62 and BA is £120, when you go all the way though Ryanair is £140 and BA is still £120.
Darren Cronian | 25 August, 2010 at 2:54 pm
@ Nick
Funny you should mention about the journey times. I saw the same thing when looking for NYC flights earlier in the year. Go via Amsterdam and another US city and it took 7 hours more, but cost £150 less. I would rather pay the money to be honest.
Like you put it though, you cannot truly compare when the extra’s like check-in etc. are not included.
Sylvia | 25 August, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Yeah. I agree. Basically, I get confused. There’s always loads of information on these things but absolutely no real way of finding the information that you want in a very quick format. I get incredibly confused and irritated by these sites and so, yes, I feel that there should be some kind of streaming system on them. Not very likely that it will happen however.
Martino | 25 August, 2010 at 3:58 pm
OK, I am biased, but I don’t believe in price comparison engines. As Nick says, there is a problem with routing (no, I don’t want to fly to Heathrow, just to connect via Luton the next day), but also with the concept of “price comparison”.
Before you can compare like for like, you need to say not just where and when are you flying, but also how many bags have you got, how heavy are the bags, how are you paying, can you print your boarding pass, do you need to go to toilet (thanks Ryanair), etc.
Let’s face it: yes, they are all helpful (some more or less helpful than Kayak, Darren), but none of them are authoritative. At WhichBudget, we have plans to launch a meta search engine, but by no means will we ever call it authoritative, the best, the most complete, or even “price comparison”.
Having started a flight directory website back in 2002, we still adhere to the same principle: here’s who flies where and you can check who is the cheapest – depending on your preferences and circumstances!
Dennis Schaal | 25 August, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Darren: I think there will be more price-comparison sites and more online travel agency sites because the travel market is huge. You don’t have to be as big as Kayak to make money off metasearch. Just a little slice of the pie will make a nice killing for investors. Call it the long tail of price comparison sites.
David Whitley | 25 August, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Thing is, if there was one that worked best all the time, we’d all use it. The problem isn’t that there are too many trying to get a slice of the pie, it’s that none of the new ones are significantly improving on what’s out there. Hence, it gets boring.
Personally, I tend to use Kayak for long haul and Skyscanner for short haul. Oddly, I’ve actually tested it, and they didn’t come up with the best results but I like the interfaces and find they generally give a good overview.
Murray Harrold | 25 August, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Well, of course, one can always use the best flight comparison system around (been around a while, actually) – it’s called a high street travel agent….
..of course, price comparison sites compare “a” price and generally not “the” price, further they do not – none of them – use the criteria of “best value” which is a long way from “the cheapest”.
Actually, “the cheapest” can work out very, very expensive if you are not travel savvy (as opposed to internet savvy) depending of what you are trying to do. If you do not use a travel agent as a matter of course, you very often need a travel agent to interpret the results of any price comparison site.
By way of example, I was checking for Dublin to Brussels (I use price comparison sites for routings – some are very good at this, just to make sure I have not missed something if I am not happy with a fare) – one site managed a record-breaking 18 hours and 30 mins for the journey. “The price” was good, though… so this is an example of best value v. the cheapest.
James Craven | 25 August, 2010 at 5:45 pm
@traverants
We don’t need more airfare comparison sites, what we need is for the ones we have to do a better job. Someone (GDS, OTA etc.) needs to offer an easy automated way to compare apples-to-apples total fare (airfare+fees) between carriers. Whoever gets this done will get my air bookings and I believe many others will follow…
@CravenTravels
Sam Daams | 25 August, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Murray’s point brings up another huge pet peeve of mine. How is it even possible that a flight that goes over far more km/stops ends up cheaper than shorter flights. If we ever want a shot at saving the environment, governments need to start enforcing taxes by the km’s flown or number of airports stopped, to at the very least make these kinds of routes a lot less attractive.
Darren Cronian | 25 August, 2010 at 6:51 pm
@ Murray & Sam
Yep, I have seen that alot too – as I mentioned to Nick earlier, flight to NYC, via Amsterdam and Chicago (I think it was Chicago) then to JFK, cost £150 less, and despite it being a longer flight in both distance and time.
Sam Daams | 25 August, 2010 at 7:05 pm
@ Dennis, is Kayak actually making money? Last I heard they were losing quite a bit, but yes, that was a year or two ago. My understanding of the model is it is not much more than re-advertising ads and income per click is pretty bad (and gets worse in the long term the more of these sites there are), with some airlines not even paying anything. You’d probably have to do at least 10-20 million page views per month to sustain 3 or 4 folks. And 10-20 million page views per month don’t come easy OR cheap, and it certainly doesn’t get easier with every new entry in the market! Not to mention the OTA’s and all the 1000′s of other smartly SEO’d travel/airline sites that actually already rank for flight related terms.
I guess you could say I’m bearish on the model, not in the least based on the failure of sites like kelkoo et al. Remember 5 years ago when *those* were all the rage?!
Darren Cronian | 25 August, 2010 at 7:10 pm
@ Sam
You’ve mentioned something that I am ALWAYS thinking – “how can that site be making money” I ask this question a lot. A point to add, while I always use Kayak, 99% of the time, I have never made a booking via their search.
I use it more for research, i.e. to see who is flying there, the rough cost. If I was booking a flight long haul then I would book with an agent, but short haul I’d go with the airline that offers the flight to the destination, nearest from where I live.
Tim Morston | 29 September, 2010 at 11:08 am
It really seems like the market is bloated, and I suspect some of the sites are even using the same engine or the same pool of information as eachother. I use a few different ones like kayak, flights24.com, expedia as it is always a classic, and I also suspect they make most of their money through ads and redirections.
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