<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Lack of flexibility when booking holiday online</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:52:48 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/#comment-146851</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.travel-rants.com/?p=4125#comment-146851</guid>
		<description>@ Simon, I agree I do look at as an agent..However I am also a customer to most of the suppliers! At the end of the day it now been proved that the cost factor of selling via the web is a lot higher than first thought and close to other methods.

@ Darren, a tip for you or anyone else, ring an agent give them the details of what you want before you go and visit. Your experience goes to show what agents do, I taken 6 hours to put one quote together ... this is where our experience comes in. The best computer is still the human brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Simon, I agree I do look at as an agent..However I am also a customer to most of the suppliers! At the end of the day it now been proved that the cost factor of selling via the web is a lot higher than first thought and close to other methods.</p>
<p>@ Darren, a tip for you or anyone else, ring an agent give them the details of what you want before you go and visit. Your experience goes to show what agents do, I taken 6 hours to put one quote together &#8230; this is where our experience comes in. The best computer is still the human brain.
<p>
				<span id="reportcomment_results_div_146851"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment_AddTextArea( 146851 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span><br />
				<span id="reportcomment_comment_div_146851"></span>
			</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adeje</title>
		<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/#comment-146839</link>
		<dc:creator>Adeje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.travel-rants.com/?p=4125#comment-146839</guid>
		<description>Hi Darren,

You asked what frustrates me when booking online ? Actually it can be when websites try to be too clever. I was on a Tenerife website recently trying to look at a holiday to Los Gigantes. The search form had been set up to automatically look for flights to Tenerife North for that resort, the thing is there are no longer any flights to TFN so they weren&#039;t able to offer me anything unless I booked the hotel only and flights seperately. As you say, ATOL protection is important so I went elsewhere. This is just a small example of one of the 2 problems - 1 is that Travel is very intricate, lots of different suppliers, different systems, various third parties. 2 is that Travel is very dynamic, everything changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darren,</p>
<p>You asked what frustrates me when booking online ? Actually it can be when websites try to be too clever. I was on a Tenerife website recently trying to look at a holiday to Los Gigantes. The search form had been set up to automatically look for flights to Tenerife North for that resort, the thing is there are no longer any flights to TFN so they weren&#8217;t able to offer me anything unless I booked the hotel only and flights seperately. As you say, ATOL protection is important so I went elsewhere. This is just a small example of one of the 2 problems &#8211; 1 is that Travel is very intricate, lots of different suppliers, different systems, various third parties. 2 is that Travel is very dynamic, everything changes.
<p>
				<span id="reportcomment_results_div_146839"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment_AddTextArea( 146839 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span><br />
				<span id="reportcomment_comment_div_146839"></span>
			</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Darren Cronian</title>
		<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/#comment-146772</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Cronian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.travel-rants.com/?p=4125#comment-146772</guid>
		<description>Great discussion everyone.

@ Nick

Its an advert for using travel agents, but even then, from my US booking experience, I found that it was long winded when sat in the shop. It took up a good hour of my lunch time just to get one quote.

The agent was helpful, and if she didnt know the answer to a question she went and asked work colleagues. 

I know I am internet savvy and I like to make things sound simple sometimes, but all I want to do is click on A,B,C hotel, book X flight, airport transfer and be protected by ABTA/ATOL in the same breath.

I can do that if I book my own hotel and flight but I&#039;m buggared if the airline or hotel chain goes six feet under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion everyone.</p>
<p>@ Nick</p>
<p>Its an advert for using travel agents, but even then, from my US booking experience, I found that it was long winded when sat in the shop. It took up a good hour of my lunch time just to get one quote.</p>
<p>The agent was helpful, and if she didnt know the answer to a question she went and asked work colleagues. </p>
<p>I know I am internet savvy and I like to make things sound simple sometimes, but all I want to do is click on A,B,C hotel, book X flight, airport transfer and be protected by ABTA/ATOL in the same breath.</p>
<p>I can do that if I book my own hotel and flight but I&#8217;m buggared if the airline or hotel chain goes six feet under.
<p>
				<span id="reportcomment_results_div_146772"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment_AddTextArea( 146772 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span><br />
				<span id="reportcomment_comment_div_146772"></span>
			</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/#comment-146771</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.travel-rants.com/?p=4125#comment-146771</guid>
		<description>@Nick - you are looking at it from an Agent point of view though.  A direct customer needs as simple a process as is possible when booking.  You use a system over and over again, then you come to know how it works and the limitations, whereas a direct customer hitting a website will leave if they become frustrated or find that there are barriers to the actions they want to take.  We tend to approach our Agent websites differently to direct clients for the reason that Agents use them over and over again, and have knowledge to go alongside what they are seeing (eg. I know there is another flight available this day which is cheaper, why isn&#039;t it showing?  If I search just indirect flights maybe it will come back).

It depends on the holiday type also - multicentre flights would be far easier to present to a customer in a friendly manner than a multicentre holiday which includes transfers, flights, accommodation and excursions.  

Impossible is not a word that is in my vocabulary :-)  It&#039;s always possible, but it&#039;s whether you do it for the sake of doing it or do it as close to properly as you can, to give the maximum benefits to the users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick &#8211; you are looking at it from an Agent point of view though.  A direct customer needs as simple a process as is possible when booking.  You use a system over and over again, then you come to know how it works and the limitations, whereas a direct customer hitting a website will leave if they become frustrated or find that there are barriers to the actions they want to take.  We tend to approach our Agent websites differently to direct clients for the reason that Agents use them over and over again, and have knowledge to go alongside what they are seeing (eg. I know there is another flight available this day which is cheaper, why isn&#8217;t it showing?  If I search just indirect flights maybe it will come back).</p>
<p>It depends on the holiday type also &#8211; multicentre flights would be far easier to present to a customer in a friendly manner than a multicentre holiday which includes transfers, flights, accommodation and excursions.  </p>
<p>Impossible is not a word that is in my vocabulary <img src='http://www.travel-rants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s always possible, but it&#8217;s whether you do it for the sake of doing it or do it as close to properly as you can, to give the maximum benefits to the users.
<p>
				<span id="reportcomment_results_div_146771"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment_AddTextArea( 146771 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span><br />
				<span id="reportcomment_comment_div_146771"></span>
			</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2009/05/26/lack-flexibility-booking-holiday-online/#comment-146757</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.travel-rants.com/?p=4125#comment-146757</guid>
		<description>Tamara your right, we noticed it to. Also your right about the systems now coming up on 40 years old. These systems came from BM times (before Microsoft) now in the modern everything talks to everything WA (windows age) they can not just cope.... with talking to a Microsoft program.

However Darren you made an interesting point, travel agents can do it so why can&#039;t you do it online? Basically at the moment it just to impossible to program we hear shouted..... Not true after all the 4th largest ATOL holder in the UK does it, I know we use there system all the time as a appointed expedia agent, we also work with other major ABTA/ATOL companies that do nothing but this... where the problem comes is how the travel industry grew... we use to have a weeks or fortnight holiday so travel company&#039;s sent a flight to XYZ on a Sunday so people could do this. Now people want 10 days but the only flight is a Sunday..so can not be done, there just is not enough people wanting to go to XYZ for more flights.

Ahhh but you shout but to  ABC I can go what ever the day of the week I want, that shows if you put on the flights people will go... well no.... XYZ has 300 passenger weekly arrivals... ABC has 3000 and that was before daily flights came in, all it shows is more people want to go to ABC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tamara your right, we noticed it to. Also your right about the systems now coming up on 40 years old. These systems came from BM times (before Microsoft) now in the modern everything talks to everything WA (windows age) they can not just cope&#8230;. with talking to a Microsoft program.</p>
<p>However Darren you made an interesting point, travel agents can do it so why can&#8217;t you do it online? Basically at the moment it just to impossible to program we hear shouted&#8230;.. Not true after all the 4th largest ATOL holder in the UK does it, I know we use there system all the time as a appointed expedia agent, we also work with other major ABTA/ATOL companies that do nothing but this&#8230; where the problem comes is how the travel industry grew&#8230; we use to have a weeks or fortnight holiday so travel company&#8217;s sent a flight to XYZ on a Sunday so people could do this. Now people want 10 days but the only flight is a Sunday..so can not be done, there just is not enough people wanting to go to XYZ for more flights.</p>
<p>Ahhh but you shout but to  ABC I can go what ever the day of the week I want, that shows if you put on the flights people will go&#8230; well no&#8230;. XYZ has 300 passenger weekly arrivals&#8230; ABC has 3000 and that was before daily flights came in, all it shows is more people want to go to ABC.
<p>
				<span id="reportcomment_results_div_146757"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment_AddTextArea( 146757 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span><br />
				<span id="reportcomment_comment_div_146757"></span>
			</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

