Comments on: Cheap Flights to be extinct by 2012 http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/ Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:52:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jennifer http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-94351 Jennifer Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:30:53 +0000 http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-94351 We recently saw a sleuth of $1, $0.05 flights being offered in Aus. It is a bit dodgy because although they advertise the flights, they dont advertise the dates. But still, the trend seem to point to cheaper flights so far. Still, I agree with airport tax being more and more ridiculous We recently saw a sleuth of $1, $0.05 flights being offered in Aus. It is a bit dodgy because although they advertise the flights, they dont advertise the dates. But still, the trend seem to point to cheaper flights so far. Still, I agree with airport tax being more and more ridiculous

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]]> By: TomC http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90666 TomC Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:14:23 +0000 http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90666 No it will not stamp out the low cost guys despite the attempts by various groups and governments to extinguish them. If you look at the real yield of any acrft (say a 737) on a given flight (and yes I agree aside from the loss leaders) you would find that it is producing quite satisfactory revenues because whilst you, being a clever traveller, have booked for 99 pence six weeks previously, the guy sitting next to you probably paid £150 and the guy at the back may have paid £250 because he arrived this morning due to an urgent travel requirement. Also they do not have the heavy overpaid group of management that the Nationals have. They also make up for it with coaches, carparking, baggage charges etc. They are also reliant on a newish phenomenon; aircraft reliability so that they can work their aircraft hard. It is only in the last few years that the Nationals decided that having three standby aircraft for every working one (same applies to staff) was not essential. As I write this I am seeing the news that terminal 5 is producing the same chaos that is considered normal in UK. (What lunatic arranged that the terminal design allowed domestic passengers to mix with internationals. And no wheelchair access and the greatest insanity is to build it at Heathrow. Surely Norman Foster (Sorry SIR Norman Foster) could have been persuaded to erect anoth couple of barns at Stansted which also has the space to build more runways (yes I have had a drink in the pub that will have to be knocked down and yes I have wondered why Hatfield Forest would all die due to gallons of kerosene being dumped all over it whereas the lady who grows flowers in her garden at the end of the runway at heathrow finds her flower and shrubs all thrive) Its lovely to hear the smooth voice on TV saying what a wonderful and beautiful building terminal five is, whilst the cameraman is trying to film the spokesman without getting the angry group of disgruntled travellers in the frame. A last thought. Why is it that the UK is the only country that persists in baggage trolleys with all four wheels castoring. Fix the rear two and it becomes steerable and saves have to wrench it about on any kind of slope. Happy travelling No it will not stamp out the low cost guys despite the attempts by various groups and governments to extinguish them.
If you look at the real yield of any acrft (say a 737) on a given flight (and yes I agree aside from the loss leaders) you would find that it is producing quite satisfactory revenues because whilst you, being a clever traveller, have booked for 99 pence six weeks previously, the guy sitting next to you probably paid £150 and the guy at the back may have paid £250 because he arrived this morning due to an urgent travel requirement.
Also they do not have the heavy overpaid group of management that the Nationals have.
They also make up for it with coaches, carparking, baggage charges etc. They are also reliant on a newish phenomenon; aircraft reliability so that they can work their aircraft hard. It is only in the last few years that the Nationals decided that having three standby aircraft for every working one (same applies to staff) was not essential.
As I write this I am seeing the news that terminal 5 is producing the same chaos that is considered normal in UK. (What lunatic arranged that the terminal design allowed domestic passengers to mix with internationals. And no wheelchair access and the greatest insanity is to build it at Heathrow. Surely Norman Foster (Sorry SIR Norman Foster) could have been persuaded to erect anoth couple of barns at Stansted which also has the space to build more runways (yes I have had a drink in the pub that will have to be knocked down and yes I have wondered why Hatfield Forest would all die due to gallons of kerosene being dumped all over it whereas the lady who grows flowers in her garden at the end of the runway at heathrow finds her flower and shrubs all thrive) Its lovely to hear the smooth voice on TV saying what a wonderful and beautiful building terminal five is, whilst the cameraman is trying to film the spokesman without getting the angry group of disgruntled travellers in the frame.
A last thought. Why is it that the UK is the only country that persists in baggage trolleys with all four wheels castoring. Fix the rear two and it becomes steerable and saves have to wrench it about on any kind of slope.
Happy travelling

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]]> By: Nick http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90261 Nick Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:45:48 +0000 http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90261 Darren Cheapest flight I booked was virgin blue just AUS25 from melbourne to sydney. But thing to remember is low cost carriers use loss leaders. The day they went on sale I went in to book a easyjet flight to malaga and it was £120 each way, it was however school holidays. Darren

Cheapest flight I booked was virgin blue just AUS25 from melbourne to sydney. But thing to remember is low cost carriers use loss leaders. The day they went on sale I went in to book a easyjet flight to malaga and it was £120 each way, it was however school holidays.

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]]> By: Darren Cronian http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90123 Darren Cronian Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:46:38 +0000 http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90123 @ Austin, good point about advertising. I can't remember which airline, but a number of them have started to advertise on the seat trays. @Amanda, I visited Australia in 2003, the flight was only £799 return and I went via Malaysia, Sydney, Cairns, Sydney, Hobart, home, just had a look this week for a similar flight and it's double that now! @ Colin, Flights will most certainly increase before 2012, the post was really to get the point across that by 2012 they won't be such a thing as a cheap flight. @ Austin, good point about advertising. I can’t remember which airline, but a number of them have started to advertise on the seat trays.

@Amanda, I visited Australia in 2003, the flight was only £799 return and I went via Malaysia, Sydney, Cairns, Sydney, Hobart, home, just had a look this week for a similar flight and it’s double that now!

@ Colin, Flights will most certainly increase before 2012, the post was really to get the point across that by 2012 they won’t be such a thing as a cheap flight.

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]]> By: Colin Webster http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90103 Colin Webster Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:56:20 +0000 http://www.travel-rants.com/2008/03/23/cheap-flights-to-be-extinct-by-2012/#comment-90103 I think that with oil price so high and environmental taxes coming in, airfares will have to rise. Probably before 2012. There are a few things that can keep it down like subjecting passengers to more advertising. See also: http://jetvine.blogspot.com/2007/12/holland-eco-tax-not-hit-with-airlines.html http://jetvine.blogspot.com/2008/03/oil-price-breaches-105-barrel.html I think that with oil price so high and environmental taxes coming in, airfares will have to rise. Probably before 2012. There are a few things that can keep it down like subjecting passengers to more advertising.
See also:
http://jetvine.blogspot.com/2007/12/holland-eco-tax-not-hit-with-airlines.html
http://jetvine.blogspot.com/2008/03/oil-price-breaches-105-barrel.html

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