I have never used Travel Counsellors before but I have booked my holiday through an independent travel agency which I suspects works on the same principle that you are booking your holiday through a third-party who will go through a travel operator.

If there’s a problem with your booking you would go through the third party but what if that third party cannot help you so they direct you to the travel operator, who then tells you that there is nothing that they can do about the booking issue.
Confused. Yes, and so is Kim Goldingay who has booked a holiday to the Maldives, departing from Manchester airport. Kim received her confirmation which shows her flight is now from Gatwick. She contacted the agent who informed her that she was surprised it was departing from Gatwick, and told her to speak with Thomas Cook.
She now wants to cancel to re-book her holiday elsewhere but neither company will refund the deposit that she has paid for the holiday. I have contacted Travel Counsellors who made the booking on behalf of Kim, so watch this space.
Let me know via the comments if you have you had a similar issue when booking through an independent travel agency.
Lee Harrison (owner Select World Travel) | 25 February, 2008 at 9:38 am
Quite a few flights consolidate their routings. I suppose it depends on a couple of things. At the time of booking was the agent aware of the flight having a touch down at Gatwick? Had the Tour Operator made it clear that the flight departed Manchester and touched down at Gatwick?
Flight Schedules can change and I would presume that the contract allows an operator or airline to alter the flight path and arrangements as long as it’s within a certain time scale.
I would presume that the Tour Operator is honouring it’s contract as it is delivering a holiday from Manchester to The Maldives.
I would hope that the client would be thinking of the end destination and hopefully a fantastic holiday rather than a very slight inconvenience of a consolidated flight and routing.
Darren Cronian | 25 February, 2008 at 10:50 am
“very slight inconvenience of a consolidated flight and routing”
Sorry Lee, but I can’t help quoting you here. Very slight inconvenience? Firstly, having to travel from London, 2/3 hours away by train (more by car) rather than your nearest airport is very inconvenient. If they have changed or made an error it I want my money back so I can fly from an airport that I want to. It’s called flexibility.
.. and you wonder why people are booking DIY holidays..
Lee Harrison (owner Select World Travel) | 25 February, 2008 at 11:48 am
Sorry Darren, in your post you state that the flight is Via Gatwick ? Reading your post I am pre-suming that the flight is originating from Manchester and has a touch down at Gatwick.
Is This not the case then?
Darren Cronian | 25 February, 2008 at 11:54 am
Sorry Lee. I mean that the flight originally was from Manchester but it is now from Gatwick airport.. I’ll make a change to the post because yes that is misleading!!
Lee Harrison (owner Select World Travel) | 25 February, 2008 at 12:23 pm
In that Case Darren, yes it is important to state the facts correctly in the first place:-). the difference being that depending on the Tour Operators booking conditions that the client would have accepted different circumstances would be in place. Most changes made by tour operators are deemed as minor changes. However if the tour operator considers them a significant change such as a a change of accommodation to that of a lower category and/ or price, a change of flight times of more than 12 hours, a change of UK departure airport ( as this now seems to be the case? as Darrren has re-stated) or a significant change of resort area.
It could be possible that depending on the Tour Operators terms of conditions that Kim could be entitled to one of the following.
In the case of a SIGNIFICANT CHANGE before departure the operator could provide three alternatives.
1. alternative travel arrangements of equivalent or of very closely similar standard and price if available.
2. alternative travel arrangements of a lower standard together with a refund of ther difference in price or
3. cancel your holiday with a full refund of all monies paid.
In all 3 cases, minimum compensation could be paid usually from £20per person up to £50.00 per person depending on the time notified and unless the change occurs as a result of circumstances beyond the tour operators control.
I would still like you Darren to clarify that this flight is a change of UK airport from Manchester Darren as it’s fairly unusual, whereas consolidaing flights from Manchester and touching down to collect more passengers, refueling etc is more common place?
Darren Cronian | 25 February, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Lee, I will clarify your points with the consumer later tonight. Hmmm I check with a work colleague and she flew to Gatwick to pick up more passengers, so maybe there’s some confusion between the agency and consumer.
Either the consumer didn’t understand or this information wasn’t relayed to them in the communication.
I’ll obviously update this post as I get more information from the consumer and company(s) concerned.
Darren Cronian | 26 February, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Update from the consumer;
I booked a holiday from Manchester to Maldives. Confirmation shows Manchester Via Gatwick to Maldives – nowhere on Airtours or Thomas Cook website does it say that this flight goes via Gatwick – also Agent said she was not aware it went via Gatwick. Like I said before I am a very nervous flier and do not like taking off and landing at the best of times let alone doing it twice in one journey – never mind the extra 3 hours on the journey!
Darren Cronian | 26 February, 2008 at 7:41 pm
The consumer is still waiting for a solution to the problem. Hopefully Travel Counsellors can get in touch with Thomas Cook soon.
Lee Harrison (owner Select World Travel) | 27 February, 2008 at 11:17 am
As I thought Darren, VIA Gatwick is a different scenario to changing the departure airport. It is however important though that this information should be made available to the client before they make the booking and enter into a contract.
There are far too many incidents that often occur with tour operators and unfortunatly Darren it’s those that book DIY that can come unstuck
and find they have no one to help them. I hope in this case, that Kim gets things sorted out and am sure that Travel Counsellors will be trying to sort out with Thomas Cook. At least Kim has a respectable and reliable Company that she has booked with and a person to turn too
Kim Goldingay | 27 February, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Just to give you an update. Travel Counsellors have called me today and offered to put me on the Gatwick Flight at no extra cost – this is what I asked for. I just did not want to sit on a plane for 3 hours whilst it went from Manchester to Gatwick. Am pleased with the outcome and pleased with the service of Travel Counsellors Head Office for sorting it out for me.
Thanks to Darren for all your help.
Darren Cronian | 27 February, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Glad you got it sorted Kim
Well done to Travel Counsellors for dealing with the issue professionally.
Sarah | 25 March, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Can you help…? ‘Flight Only’ booked for 8 pax 2 being small children. We choose a flight time that is convenient for us all (9:30am). I have received a letter to say they have amended the flight time to 6.00am. This would mean getting the little ones up and out of the house by 2.00am instead of 5.30am. Which intern would mean a bad flight experience for all the other passengers (tired children!!) Am I on a lost cause asking them to find us a more suitable flight time, can you advise please?
Darren Cronian | 25 March, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Hi Sarah,
When you say “them” do you mean Travel counsellors or another company? I think that needs confirming first.
Unfortunately, there’s not a great deal you can do if they change the flight, other than contact the airline direct and see if there’s anything that they can do.
It will be the airline that has made the change not the travel company themselves, so there’s probably very little that they can do.
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