OMG my head is hurting. Last night was the 1st of 3 Christmas parties that I am attending this year – what a great night, but I am suffering because of it today. Thankfully, I am not going out tonight, so plenty of time to recover for the next party on Thursday night.

Anyway, my brain isn’t functioning properly, but I do have a question from a number of holidaymakers to anyone who can answer. If you have booked a flight in December, to depart anytime after 1 February, does it mean you will have to pay this extra duty at the airport, or is it for all flights booked after the 1 February?
That’s it for today, I’m going to crawl back on the sofa and watch some movies.
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Craig McGinty | 16 December, 2006 at 4:10 pm
easyJet has taken this one up, they issued a press release about it:
Will be interesting to see what happens, and who will ask for the extra pennies in the airport departure lounge come February.
Darren Cronian | 16 December, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Craig, thanks for that link. Interesting, that they haven’t thought about this before introducing the new APD. One rumour I have heard via an holidaymaker is that the airline will take the extra tax at the airport, but they will only accept credit or debit cards - no cash or cheques.
Can you imagine the extra queues, and what about the people who dont have or want a credit or debit card? Obviously, its just rumours, but someone needs to make a decision soon.
Kevin May | 16 December, 2006 at 10:07 pm
the APD comes into force on 1 February, but as far as most industry figures know the consumer will not pay anything until that date.
the government cannot take a tax from the public prior to its inception date.
the key question is how the airlines will take up the shortfall of the passengers that have booked ahead of 1 feb for flights after that date. it is estimated that the cost to the airlines will be around £80m.
airlines would NOT be able to take an extra tax from passengers at the airport.
beware of urban myths, Rants.
Darren Cronian | 16 December, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Thanks Kev.
Whilst I am not doubting you, I have not seen this information anywhere, do you have a link I could guide consumers? It’s the question that’s generating alot of emails at the moment.
Urban myths, don’t you just love them!
Alper Ozturk | 18 December, 2006 at 4:36 pm
I tried to read about this on Travel Weekly and Travel Trade Gazette for a definitive position. My initial conclusion is that there isn’t a definitive guide. Basically, the treasury is saying that this is a tax on airlines, rather than passengers. Therefore, it is the airlines’ responsibility to come up with this extra tax. I understand that according to the ‘EU directive’ on Package Travel Regulations, If the increase happens to be less than 2% of the booking value, this cannot be passed on to the consumers, which implies that it can be passed on if it is more than 2%!. So, the value of the package is one of the determinants. Then, there are the policy issues adopted by the Airlines, some say that they will absorb this increase themselves as a gesture of goodwill, no doubt others will try to encourage the consumers pay up, although they may not be able to force this. Perhaps Contract Lawyers can advise…??
Darren Cronian | 18 December, 2006 at 5:19 pm
Welcome Alper.
Yes, I too am finding it difficult to find an official clarification. I wasnt aware it was a tax for airlines rather than consumers, but consumers will end up having the extra charge added on somewhere.
When/If I find something I’ll report back here.
Henk | 20 December, 2006 at 4:29 pm
I don’t quite agree with Kevin. I have just booked a ticket for travel in March 07, and I am being charged the full £80 APD for a BA premium economy ticket - ahead of when the tax is introduced. If you do a test booking on ba.com you’ll see that the taxes will increase if you book a flight leaving after 1 February 2007. However, if you have already booked and paid your ticket the situation becomes more complicated. I seem to remember that BA has said it will absorb the tax for those bookings on the BBC news website - but I can’t find the article anymore.
Darren Cronian | 20 December, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Thanks Henk.
Yep, it’s complicated alright. No where can I find a definate answer on this, I think like you mentioned, it depends on the airline. What we don’t want to find though is that we have to pay the extra charge near or on the day of the departure.
It’s a typical UK government decision with no thought.
Mary | 20 December, 2006 at 4:43 pm
It’s certainly outrageous. Flight prices have doubled in recent years.
Darren Cronian | 20 December, 2006 at 8:16 pm
Rants from a pretty
annoyed traveller. I’ve received a few emails today so I’ll report back later tonight with my fingers.
Thanks to Craig at This is French Life for the link above.
Darren Cronian | 20 December, 2006 at 8:19 pm
The BBC reporting about the uncertainty here
Thanks to Alper at Travel Gateway Ltd for the link above.
I love this quote..
“We have not ruled out the idea of putting on our Gordon Brown costumes and collecting with a bucket” Toby Nichol, Easyjet
Amanda | 20 December, 2006 at 10:13 pm
I booked a flight in Sept for a trip in Feb 07, and I received an email from my airline yesterday telling me I now owe an additonal 92 dollars (CDN). They kindly provided a link to their site where I can pay now. I haven’t yet, but I’m assuming it’s not optional.
Darren Cronian | 20 December, 2006 at 10:18 pm
Hi Amanda, welcome to Travel Rants.com
I had a good read of your blog earlier
Yes, unfortunately, it’s not optional, but I wonder what they would do is everyone refused to pay, who had already booked a flight under their terms and conditions at that time.
I’ve booked a flight for 19 Feb, to Oslo, Norway with Ryanair - I’m yet to see if I receive an email asking for the extra cost. Where are you flying from and to, because $92 sounds a bit high.
Amanda | 20 December, 2006 at 10:29 pm
The 92 is for two people (46 each) flying to Canada out of London. We’ve also got a ryanair flight from London to Dublin booked, but no word from them yet. I guess I should be grateful I found out now and not on the last day of my trip when I ‘d already spent all my money at H&M and in various pubs across England and Ireland!
Darren Cronian | 20 December, 2006 at 10:35 pm
You’ll love Dublin, awesome city, and great for pubbing!
Have fun on your trip and drop by and tell us all about your trip!! ![]()
Kevin May | 22 December, 2006 at 2:59 pm
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/exclusive-gordon-brown-in-tax-cock-up.html
the plot thickens.
klm, ed, travo
Darren Cronian | 22 December, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Thanks for the link Kevin. Interesting article. I’ve not heard from Ryanair yet.
Andy Rumfitt | 5 January, 2007 at 4:52 pm
BA have agreed to cover the costs of the APD increase for passengers who have pre-booked at a cost of £11 million.
see http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/12/16/cnba16.xml
Easyjet are now going round expecting travellers to pay the additional costs
Andy
Andy P | 5 January, 2007 at 5:02 pm
I’ve just had that email from easyjet who it seems are passing the price on to passengers.
No word to say what happens if you don’t pay up by Jan 15th though
sadly their terms and conditions mention about ‘what if taxes rise’ etc and say you have to pay if they pass them on basically
Darren Cronian | 5 January, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Well, congrats on BA.com – it’s great to see large organisations, putting their hands in the companies’ profits, and helping consumers keep the cost down. I’ll be thinking about using BA.com for long haul flights, if it’s going to save me £££s.
Ryanair and the other low cost airlines will pass this on to the consumer, as they will not be able to afford the extra costs. This unfortunately, means that low earners, will once again have to pay more, and possibly be priced out of holidays abroad - especially familes.
Andy P, it’ll be interesting to see what happens if you don’t pay by the 15th Jan, which is a short timescale to pay the money. Surely, they can’t expect the money until nearer your departure from the UK.
Heinz Grunst | 5 January, 2007 at 9:54 pm
I have booked on the 13th of november 2006 an easyjet roundtrip from Cologne to London for February and another easyjet roundtrip from London to Almeria in the same period. This afternoon I recieved an email from easyjet, which asked me to pay additional taxes on the flight to Almeria.
Do I now get another one for the flight from London to cologne?
Where is a statement of the government to read, that additional taxes should be collected also on bookings before the 6th of december 2006?
Martyn Armstrong | 7 January, 2007 at 3:15 pm
I listened to Moneybox on the BBC and their edition broadcast on 16th Dec had an interesting contribution from one Toby Nichol of Easyjet. For some reason the edition is not available to listen to again but this link summarises what he said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/moneybox/6184581.stm. Here’s the interesting bit though…
Toby Nichol of Easyjet says the airline faces an extra £4.5m tax bill if passengers are not prepared to pay up but making them do so could be difficult.
He hopes passengers will be prepared to pay an extra £5 to cover the tax as a goodwill gesture.
“We will be going back to our customers and saying - the chancellor has doubled air passenger duty - how do you feel about giving us an extra fiver?” he said.
Richard | 7 January, 2007 at 11:47 pm
I have a large number of flights beeked between the February and the end of the summer and I have just had the easyjet emails asking me to pay the extra taxes by the 15th of Jan.
Is anyone else waiting until after the 15th to see what happens?
Is there any way they can collect the extra taxes for these flights?
Why did Toby Nichol of Easyjet say -
‘ the airline faces an extra £4.5m tax bill if passengers are not prepared to pay up but making them do so could be difficult’ - if they were definately going to be able to collect the taxes?
Richard
Martyn Armstrong | 10 January, 2007 at 9:42 pm
The article on the BBC website is now available to listen to again so you can listen to Toby Nichol. Go to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/moneybox/6183161.stm and scroll down to the Airline Tax article. The first part of the article talks about package holidays but then moves on to Flight only scenarios. Also the Telegraph dated 30th Dec had an article on the back of it’s Money supplement saying that until the Tax change was voted through by Parliament there is no legal obligation on the travelling public to pay the tax.
Francesca | 11 January, 2007 at 7:00 pm
I booked a return Easyject flight to Berlin for March (booked on the 12th October 2006!) and I too have now received the email from Easyjet asking me the extra £5. I have decided not to pay and wait until I get to the airport. I only hope they won’t sell my seat in the meantime and I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. However, I am willing to take the risk as I don’t think it’s fair to charge those passengers who have booked before the increased was introduced. I will only pay at the airport if that is the only way to get on the plane. Unfortunately, I think they will ask their passengers to pay at the airport as I am sure they will be able to take payment over the check-in counter (as they usually do when they charge for extra luggage).
Andrew Smith | 12 January, 2007 at 10:26 am
I’m flying with Ryanair in Feb, booked last November and still haven’t heard from Ryanair asking for extra APD. There’s nothing on their web site either.
Henk | 12 January, 2007 at 11:31 am
There’s now another factor in this. BA has just announced it will reduce the fuel surcharge for long haul flights shorter than 9 hours by £5. So if I booked before, do I get this back…..
Mike | 12 January, 2007 at 8:39 pm
It seems that the uncertainty continues. Easyjet have asked me for the extra £5 on 4 flights booked for March but on a single booking with Monarch same date no email as yet. Are the airlines just collecting amounts over say £10? You would think that the government would make the position fairly clear and that the airlines would only ask for the amount IF there was a legal requirement for doing so - on the other hand!!
Andrew Robinson | 13 January, 2007 at 10:39 am
I’m flying with easyJet in February, and they sent me an email saying they required an *extra* £10 for a domestic short flight, but it is my understanding that the air passenger duty has gone from £5 to £10, heralding a supposed £5 payment from me to Gordon Brown.
Why are easyJet charging me £10 extra?
Darren Cronian | 13 January, 2007 at 12:31 pm
That’s a very good point Andrew.
I like you thought it was an extra £5 on top of the tax you’ve already paid for the flight.
Do you have an email from them saying it’s £10?
Darren Cronian | 13 January, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Fransesca, whilst I agree with you about we shouldn’t be having to pay this APD, you might be interested to hear that Easyjet aren’t going to allow people on to the plane if you haven’t paid your extra £5.
Might be worth looking into it if they will even accept it at the airport.
Andrew Robinson | 13 January, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Yes Darren, I have an email with the usual “due to Gordon Brown bla bla” that advises me to login to my easyJet account, instructing me to pay the extra amount.
I booked four flights to Stanstead, and it advises me the additional duty charge total is £40 (£10 per passenger)
Yet watching BBC News and Sky this morning, and trawling this genre of website, I see it is only £5 for Short Haul, and £20 - 40 for long haul?
It does seem strange, but no doubt I’m just tangled in the web of confusion that is these increases in APD.
Andrew Robinson | 13 January, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Sorry I should really clarify, on entering my easyJet account, I have a total amount of £40 extra to pay on my card, not the total duty amount is £40 including my previous transaction.
Darren Cronian | 13 January, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Bloody hell, no wonder people are confused.
There’s so many different stories going around at the moment, I’m confused myself. I’ve been told that Ryanair are expecting us to pay the APD, but I have not received any notification from them yet.
Does that mean they have got my booking in the first place [even though the money has been taken out of my account] or does it mean that they haven’t made a decision or they aren’t informing customers.
Confused - Yep, me too.
Andrew Robinson | 13 January, 2007 at 12:41 pm
On BBC News this morning the Ryanair CEO appeared in a video interview; very abrupt and short I might add, and said more or less the same as every other budget airline, you’ll be covering the cost, and if you don’t pay *before* you get to the airport, you’re not flying.
It seems absurd that those who may not check their email and subsequently pay this in advance online will be refused to fly at the airport, especially having already paid the majority of their fare to the airline.
I wholly understand there’s not a great deal the airline can do about this tax, but they should be more understanding and forgiving as ultimately, it’s us as the travelling and paying public that suffer, again.
Matthew | 13 January, 2007 at 6:46 pm
I received the e-mail from EasyJet asking me to pay the APD. Funny thing is, the link in the e-mail wasn’t even a link! Just orange writing. There is nothing on their website about payment methods, does anyone know of a way to pay, apart from phoning?
Darren Cronian | 13 January, 2007 at 6:48 pm
It seems like Easyjet are messing this up big time. Your not the only consumer to be having problems Matthew. I would suggest that you contact Easyjet “customer support” and ask them.
I’d not want to give you bad advice considering how importance this tax is to secure your flight.
Ryanair have pi$$ed me off big time - just seen that tosser Michael Oleary say that if you dont get an email TOUGH your flight is cancelled. I’ve not received an email from them yet asking me to pay, neither has anyone else, so are they going to be arsed to send an email out to customers.
It’s a disgrace.
Matthew | 13 January, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Just tried ringing the number I got in the e-mail. They spend about 5 minutes telling you other numbers to ring for services I don’t want or need! The menus are really poorly constructed. I hung up because I couldn’t find an option that applied. Has anyone paid easyjet?
James Ingram | 13 January, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Some quotes from the above mails:
> It seems like EasyJet are messing this up big time.
Right!
>i s anyone else waiting until after the 15th to see what happens?
Yes.
> the Telegraph dated 30th Dec had an article on the back of it’s
> Money supplement saying that until the Tax change was voted
> through by Parliament there is no legal obligation on the
> travelling public to pay the tax.
Has Parliament voted yet? Is this a law or not? What happens to the money EasyJet is collecting if Parliament decides that Gordon Brown needs teaching a lesson.
> Toby Nichol of Easyjet … hopes passengers will be prepared
> to pay an extra £5 to cover the tax as a goodwill gesture.
Why isnt Mr Nichol more concerned about EasyJet’s image and showing goodwill himself? He could quite easily offer us a set of alternatives, one of which would be to cancel the booking and return the fare which was obtained under false pretences. He could then resell the refunded tickets at a higher price and make a profit into the bargain. The price for the ticket I booked last November is already much higer than it was then.
Given the choice, I think I’d take the refund, the flight is not worth more to me than I payed for it. Everything else is dishonest trading and state piracy.
James Ingram
garri | 13 January, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Just another rapacious and ill-thought out tax imposed by these “tossers” running the country. Christ how I hope Brown doesn’t get his moment of glory at number 10. Aren’t these b@stards taxing us enough already?
I’m not a fan of O’Leary’s but I do think his attitude is directed more towards the government than his customers.
The airlines seem to be in a difficult position as effectively they are increasingly becoming tax collectors.
Darren Cronian | 13 January, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Garri.
Okay, I’m going to calm down because I’m getting a bit heated up about this subject, and I should remain professional.
I saw his snippet of his interview, and it was very much directed at travellers.
I know he has battled with the government over this and other issues, and you have to give him that for standing up, but his attitude was well out of order, and I am sure I won’t be the only person a little agrieved by his comments.
Matthew | 13 January, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Easyjet are charging £10. I got it sorted out. Where are you all getting this £5 figure from?
Darren Cronian | 14 January, 2007 at 12:19 am
Matthew, did you not pay £5 when you made the booking for air passenger tax?
I was under the impression that it was previously £5 and has increased to £10 making it £5 that everyone owes? I’ve not booked with “Easy”Jet before, so I don’t know if they have included that £5 in the past.
Richard Bell | 14 January, 2007 at 1:25 am
I booked flights with EasyJet in December for travel in April so presumably I will have to pay extra APD but I have not received an email from EasyJet demanding extra money. What does the email say regarding payment methods? Can you do it online or do you need to ring Customer Service (lot easier said than done!)
garri | 14 January, 2007 at 1:27 am
Fair play Darren, I’ll seek out the interview.
karl | 15 January, 2007 at 11:29 am
yeah. i have never recieved an email from easyjet. i booked on the 10th dec. ive been trying to get through to them all morning but its always busy =s
Brian | 16 January, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Guys, I’m very confused. I need to pay the money to Ryanair for 2 flights in february, one booked last June and one booked last July, and also one flight in March booked last July. I have not received anything from the airline telling me I need to pay it but I did hear the Michael O’Leary interview and he was pretty clear about the fact that it needs to be paid. Does anyone have a concrete solution to this? It is not possible to phone Ryanair as a previous writer said. Also there is nothing on the website. I don’t want to show up and find my flight is gone! Help!!
Brian | 16 January, 2007 at 1:33 pm
SOLUTION!!!!!!!!! Wooo Hooooo! I spoke to Ryanair, they automatically charge the extra £5 to the card with which you paid for your flight. Confirmation emails will be sent out from tomorrow.
Brian | 16 January, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Final note for Ryanair reservations… my bank card had changed since I booked the flight as my old one had expired in the meantime. Therefore it would not have been possible to debit my old card as it is now inactive. Ryanair tell me that if there are any problems with payments the customers will be contacted. Good luck to all you other airline travellers, I hope it’s as straightforward.
Alper Ozturk | 16 January, 2007 at 2:32 pm
On a technical / legal point, is it not ‘illegal’ to store/record the Card Security Code for future use? Would any ‘legal eagles’ like to comment on this? I was under the impression that ” …this number must only be used for the transaction being undertaken and stored/recorded for future use”….
Alper Ozturk | 16 January, 2007 at 2:36 pm
oops, I missed out the crucial “NOT” that comes just before stored/recorded in the last sentence…. Very important, I think…
JANET | 16 January, 2007 at 5:29 pm
I booked with easyjet on 16th December - as yet no e-mail. Am I liable or is there a possibility they already had it added on at this time? All very confusing!!
Russell | 30 January, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Just to clarify the 5 pound vs 10 pound issue…….you will be charged an EXTRA 5 pound each time you DEPART on a flight from a UK airport - That means that you will be charged an extra 10 pounds if your trip happens to be domestic (eg London to Glasgow …etc)
BTW…… this is small potatoes compared with the EXTRA 20 pounds (or 40 pounds for premium economy) if you happen to fly outside of Europe with Virgin Atlantic!!! - SHAME on them given that BA are waivering the additional duties for their passengers (although Virgin say that they are giving out a “voucher” to the same value to be used on a future flight with them.
Alex Lake | 31 January, 2007 at 6:51 pm
I’ve just heard from my package operator (Scott Dunn) that they are passing the extra fiver on to customers, despite the fact that it’s less than 2% and it’s a package. The flights are with BA, so it’s only those that (pre)booked directly that will benefit from their generosity.
Any other package operators introducing surcharges?
jackie clark | 8 February, 2007 at 6:53 pm
i too had a right old caffuffle with thomson whom i had booked a flight to tenerife with in October. My departure date is 13 march and i came across an email from them informing me of the extra tax i had to pay. A telephone number was given in order to do this. I rang four times with no luck. I then went on to the thomson website and pulled up my booking to find that they had already taken the tax from me not only once but twice and then refunded one lot back. I was absolutely livid to say the least. How dare they take money from my account without my permission. On the email they sent me there was no mention of this £5 being taken from my debit card. I rang them and told them i was furious and that they had no right to take money from my account without my permission. To me that is theft. I am taking the matter up with abta and will let you all know what happens.
Alex Lake | 9 February, 2007 at 10:23 am
Scott Dunn claim that they have some small print in their T’s and C’s that allow them to do this, but my take is that this is illegal. I’m wondering whether to shop them to some holiday/watchdog type program.
Any thoughts?
elaine | 7 April, 2007 at 8:33 pm
My family and I booked thru Jetsave(part of TUI) in Aug 06 and arrived at the airport 23 Mar for our flight with Virgin, completely unaware of this extra duty. I was told if I had booked before Dec 6th I had to pay it there and then or would not be allowed on the plane. I paid an extra £80, feeling quite miffed that Jetsave hadn’t advised me. When returning home their small print states”if the increase is less than 2% they will absorb, if more they will pass it on”, however it then goes on to say “the last invoice you receive will be guaranteed, unless I change the booking and increase in costs which occur after then will be borne by them”. The last invoice I have is dated 2nd Mar, confirming payment, I think its certainly worth taking the issue up with them !!
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