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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.travel-rants.com/2006/09/25/single-travellers-annoyance-at-single-person-supplement/#comment-169445</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The single supplement is fair enough... Think of it this way...  A baker makes two identical loaves of bread, each loaf of bread has a sale price of  $2.00. So a lady goes in and buys one of the loaves and her husband and herself eat it for lunch.The averages price for each of the diners is $1.00 each (still based on two dollars in total). I (as a single guy) also buy the same loaf of bread for lunch and it costs me $2.00 for the bread, which I eat on my own. Surely you don&#039;t expect me to get the loaf of bread for $1.00!

 Now substitue bread for hotel room and you have your answer as to why single supplements are prefectly fair, and yes again I am a single guy who does pay supplements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The single supplement is fair enough&#8230; Think of it this way&#8230;  A baker makes two identical loaves of bread, each loaf of bread has a sale price of  $2.00. So a lady goes in and buys one of the loaves and her husband and herself eat it for lunch.The averages price for each of the diners is $1.00 each (still based on two dollars in total). I (as a single guy) also buy the same loaf of bread for lunch and it costs me $2.00 for the bread, which I eat on my own. Surely you don&#8217;t expect me to get the loaf of bread for $1.00!</p>
<p> Now substitue bread for hotel room and you have your answer as to why single supplements are prefectly fair, and yes again I am a single guy who does pay supplements.
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I totally agree with you here. I think that the way hotels charge the single person occupancy fee is ridiculous, out-dated and makes absoloutely no sense. I cannot see how they are allowed to charge this. So let&#039;s see, they may tell us that if there were two adults in the room, they may take more money if both adults were to dine in the hotel. But that is to assume that the guests are going to be dining at the hotel. So that argument falls flat on its face.

So what other reason could there be? I honestly cannot think of any. Maybe we need to ask them?
I don&#039;t think it&#039;s right, and I think we should be doing everything we can to avoid paying these ridiculous fees. As another comment said, it is discrimination. What if they were to charge fees based on nationalities, religion or sex? They just couldn&#039;t get away with it. 
How can we take this further??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I totally agree with you here. I think that the way hotels charge the single person occupancy fee is ridiculous, out-dated and makes absoloutely no sense. I cannot see how they are allowed to charge this. So let&#8217;s see, they may tell us that if there were two adults in the room, they may take more money if both adults were to dine in the hotel. But that is to assume that the guests are going to be dining at the hotel. So that argument falls flat on its face.</p>
<p>So what other reason could there be? I honestly cannot think of any. Maybe we need to ask them?<br />
I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right, and I think we should be doing everything we can to avoid paying these ridiculous fees. As another comment said, it is discrimination. What if they were to charge fees based on nationalities, religion or sex? They just couldn&#8217;t get away with it.<br />
How can we take this further??
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		<title>By: Darren Cronian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Cronian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ All

Please let&#039;s not go off-topic, it doesn&#039;t help a discussion or deal with the issues in the post. Thanks :)</description>
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<p>Please let&#8217;s not go off-topic, it doesn&#8217;t help a discussion or deal with the issues in the post. Thanks <img src='http://www.travel-rants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam I didn’t know my comments were being scrutinised for punctuation and grammar. When I was at school, pupils that were slow were called  thick and didn’t get help so I do the best I can but sometimes when in a hurry I do forget,

As my school report used to say must try harder, I will in future.  
bye the way I left school in 1954</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam I didn’t know my comments were being scrutinised for punctuation and grammar. When I was at school, pupils that were slow were called  thick and didn’t get help so I do the best I can but sometimes when in a hurry I do forget,</p>
<p>As my school report used to say must try harder, I will in future.<br />
bye the way I left school in 1954
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, I just wanted to add another perspective into the pot, I&#039;m obviously not in a position to say what&#039;s right and wrong across the whole travel industry, and as anything in life, it&#039;s unlikely to be black and white! I thought I&#039;d share as it may give a hint on why there aren&#039;t more solo traveller trips around.

As I hinted in my previous post, in our case, I don&#039;t see what we charge on the odd solo traveller who takes one of our private tours as a &#039;single person supplement&#039; but the the other way around - a couple travelling have the benefits of sharing costs on transport, guides etc etc which someone taking the trip on their own doesn&#039;t. In the case where we have 3 people who want to go on a private tour which happens quite often e.g. a couple and another friend or an adult child, then we don&#039;t charge a &#039;single supplement&#039; for the solo person because we don&#039;t need to (although in most cases, we don&#039;t pay much less for the solo person&#039;s rooms than the couple&#039;s rooms, it&#039;s balanced out by the other factors).

In regards to the booking cycles on solo travellers, again only our experience. Where there is a direct comparison, e.g. our Thai cooking trips, the price per person for a solo traveller on the group tour is about the same as a per person price for a couple on the private tour, even though the solo travellers get their own room. We&#039;re able to do this because we can share other costs and have more leverage, e.g. committing to say 9 rooms (though obviously it&#039;s risky financially for us). So the difference in booking cycles can&#039;t be because our price are &#039;unfair&#039; to solo travellers compared to those in a couple, I have an idea on the factors but I won&#039;t make this post even longer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, I just wanted to add another perspective into the pot, I&#8217;m obviously not in a position to say what&#8217;s right and wrong across the whole travel industry, and as anything in life, it&#8217;s unlikely to be black and white! I thought I&#8217;d share as it may give a hint on why there aren&#8217;t more solo traveller trips around.</p>
<p>As I hinted in my previous post, in our case, I don&#8217;t see what we charge on the odd solo traveller who takes one of our private tours as a &#8216;single person supplement&#8217; but the the other way around &#8211; a couple travelling have the benefits of sharing costs on transport, guides etc etc which someone taking the trip on their own doesn&#8217;t. In the case where we have 3 people who want to go on a private tour which happens quite often e.g. a couple and another friend or an adult child, then we don&#8217;t charge a &#8216;single supplement&#8217; for the solo person because we don&#8217;t need to (although in most cases, we don&#8217;t pay much less for the solo person&#8217;s rooms than the couple&#8217;s rooms, it&#8217;s balanced out by the other factors).</p>
<p>In regards to the booking cycles on solo travellers, again only our experience. Where there is a direct comparison, e.g. our Thai cooking trips, the price per person for a solo traveller on the group tour is about the same as a per person price for a couple on the private tour, even though the solo travellers get their own room. We&#8217;re able to do this because we can share other costs and have more leverage, e.g. committing to say 9 rooms (though obviously it&#8217;s risky financially for us). So the difference in booking cycles can&#8217;t be because our price are &#8216;unfair&#8217; to solo travellers compared to those in a couple, I have an idea on the factors but I won&#8217;t make this post even longer!
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